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| Sodomy and the Salaf
This chapter is a direct refutation to a claim made by a Deobandi scholar Maulana Muhammad Ali Junbaaz 'Hurmuth Mut'ah' page 37 wherein this King of Sipah-e-Sahaba morality said as follows:
| Junbaaz states: | "An analysis of the Fiqh leads one to conclude that this Fiqh is devoid of humanity and shame, there books have narrations that a reader become ashamed, and you place you hands on your ears and recite Tauba. How can a Fiqh that deems itself the blessed one have such a filthy aqeedah. We shall expose their filthy faces from their books, so that people can decide whether this Fiqh is blessed with Paradise or falls outside of the realms of Islam and humanity…
Sodomy is permissible in the Shi'a Madhab
Sodomy is a filthy unnatural act, deemed bad by Muslim and Kaffir alike, but may one sacrifice oneself for the Shi'a religion which deems this filthy act permissible." |
We have dedicated this chapter to this filthy Nasibi, and we shall present from the books of Ahl'ul Sunnah those Salaf that were pioneers in this practise.
According to Ahl'ul Sunnah Umar indulged in sodomy and Allah (swt) was forced to legitimise this practise in the Qur'an
For evidence you can consult the following texts:
 Jami al Tirmidhi, Bab al Tafseer Volume 2, page 382, 'Ayat Hars'
- Fathul Bari Volume 8 page 191 Kitab Tafseer Ayat Hars
- Gharab al Qur'an Volume 3 page 249 Ayat Hars
- Tafseer al Ibn Katheer Volume 1 page 261
- Fayl ai Lawathar Volume 6 page 229
- Tafseer Qurtubi Volume 1 page 92 Ayat Hars
Lets quote verbatim from Jami al Tirmidhi:
Lets quote verbatim from Jami al Tirmidhi:
"Ibn Abbas narrates that Hadhrath Umar went before Rasulullah (s) and "Master I am destroyed!'. Rasulullah (s) asked 'what thing has destroyed you?'. Umar replied last night I had anal sex. Rasulullah (s) did not give a reply to Umar, then Allah (swt) sent down this revelation "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; the words 'kabool wa Dhabar' (the anus is accepted)"
Jami al Tirmidhi, Bab al Tafseer Volume 2, page 382, 'Ayat Hars'
Note this is a commentary to Surah al Baqarah, Verse 223 "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will; the words "kabool wa Dhabar" (the anus is accepted) is nowhere to be found in the Qur'an, but some dishonest Salafi sought to justify his Imam's practice via this additional verse. Interestingly the dishonest Urdu translator fails to translate these tahreef words, even though they are there in the Arabic text, (see the scanned reference from the link above).
So you see Umar's sodomy with his wife is proven from the Saha Sittah of Ahl'ul Sunnah. Umar did this act, made Rasulullah (s) a witness to the deed. The Ulema of Ahl'ul Sunnah should be grateful to Hadhrath Umar, since by sodomising his wife, the Qur'an gave permission for husbands to penetrate their wives in this manner. They owe this all to their great father Umar Farooq.
Abdullah Ibn Umar deemed sodomy to Halaal, like his old man
As evidence please consult the following authentic Sunni texts:
- Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 1 page 264 Ayat Hars
- Tafseer Qasmi Volume 2 page 220, by Jamaladeen Qasmi
- Tafseer Qurtubi page 92 Ayat Hars
Here is the direct quote from Tafseer Durre Manthur:
"Traditions wherein Abdullah ibne Umar believed sodomy with women are well known and Sahih".
Comment
Suyuti narrates TEN traditions on Ibn Umar's authority deeming sodomy to be permissible. Remember Suyuti in the intro of this Tafseer states that he took narration's from authentic texts containing complete chains.
An appeal to justice
Today's Nasibi like Junbaaz try to attack the Shi'a by presenting 'proof' from al Kafi, well always check what's in your own back yard first! Junbaaz deemed sodomy to b a 'filthy, atrocious act', that is even deemed as such in the eyes of the Kuffar - this might well be the case, but this 'fine' practice was enacted practically by your Second esteemed Khalifa, and endorsed by his great son and brother in law of Rasulullah (s) Abdullah ibn Umar. The Salafi need to start showing gratitude to their founding Imams who endorsed these wonderful acts.
The Salaf Ulema of Madina believed that sodomy was halaal
Please see the following Sunni sources:
- Fayl al Lawathar Volume 6 page 154 Kitab Nikah, Bab Mut'ah
- Tafseer Qasmi Volume 2 page 223 Ayat Hars
- Tafseer Ibn Katheer Volume 1 page 262 Ayat Hars
- Fathul Bari Volume 8 page 191 Ayat Hars
- Tafseer Mazhari, Volume 3, Page 19
Quoting directly from Fayl al Lawathar:
"Imam Auzai stated of the Fatwas from Hijaaz that are famous, one fatwa is from the people of Makka is that is that they deemed Mut'ah with women to be permissible, the other from the people of Madina, that sodomy with women is permissible".
Ibn Katheer in his Tafseer also stated:
"Statements on the permissibility of sodomy with women have come from the jurists of Madina".
The Sahaba and Tabaeen deemed sodomy with women to be permissible
We read in Tafseer Qurtubi Volume 3 page 93 Ayat Hars:
"Fatwas on the permissibility of sodomy with women Saeed bin Maseeb Nafi, ibn Umar, Muhammad bin Kab, Abdul Malik, Imam Malik, a large group amongst the Sahaba and Tabaeen deemed sodomy to be permissible".
Imam Sha'afi deemed sodomy to be permissible!
Please see the following Sunni texts:
- Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 1 page 266, Ayat Hars
- Tafseer Ruh al Ma'ani page 125, Ayat Hars
- Tafseer Ahkam al Qur'an Volume 1 page 265
- Tafseer Qasmi Volume 2 page 228 Baqarah Verse 223
- Al Mahzoorath page 268
We read in Tafseer Durre Manthur:
"On sodomy with women, Imam Sha'afi no Sahih narration's have reached us from Rasulullah (s) as to whether it is halaal or haraam and logic suggests that this halaal".
Imam of Ahl'ul Sunnah Abu Maleeka suggested 'in times of trouble' use a stick!'
We read in Tafseer Durre Manthur Ayat Hars:
"Abu Maleeka was asked whether it was permissible to practise sodomy with women. He replied 'Last night I practised sodomy with my servant, penetration became difficult hence I sought the assistance of a stick".
Comment
Many congratulations to the Salafi, your Ulema deemed sodomy halaal! Nice one. Even if that requires 'a little help from a stick!' We often see Salafis walking around with sticks in their hands - now we know why.
Imam Malik believed sodomy with women was halaal
We read in the following Sunni sources:
- Ahkam al Qur'an Volume 1 page 352 Ayat Hars
- Tafseer Gharab al Qur'an Volume 2 page 249 Ayat Hars
- Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 1 page 111, Ayat Hars
- Fathul Bari Volume 8 page 190 Kitab Tafseer Ayat Hars
Quoting verbatim from Ahkam al Qur'an:
"Sahil asked Imam Malik 'is sodomy with women permissible? Imam Malik replied 'I just did this act and have just washed by sexual organs".
Comment
We hope that these Nasibi open their eyes to these Sunni sources, the act that they allege is halaal under Shi'a fiqh, is one that is all too common in their own house! Our Ulema have said that at best its Makruh, at worst its haraam!
On page 55 of the same book, he states that:
| Junbaaz states: | | "the comments on sodomy can be located in Shi'a books, but they have failed to provide any commentary to those traditions, it can therefore be concluded that the Shi'a like their Imams deem this act to be halaal, if not why the silence?" |
Reply
On page 34 of the same book this Nasibi Mullah says that:
| Junbaaz states: | | "…to even contemplate such a thing makes you a kaffir". |
On page 48 he states:
| Junbaaz states: | | "Sodomy in the eyes of some of the Ulema is Kufr…When the Shi'a Imam was asked whether he practised it, he said 'No'. |
Maulana Junbaaz, you pride of Ahl'ul Sunnah. Let it be known that none of our Imams practised sodomy, whilst your Imams like Umar, Abu Maleeka and Malik endorsed it and practised it! Umar's Iman is now in your hands. Interestingly we also read these comments of Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi (the founder of the Wahabi movement - Sipah-e-Sahaba's) in his article on Mut'ah:
| Junbaaz states: | | "THE IMAMIAH ARE, NOT ONLY OUTSIDE THE PALE OF AHLE-SUNNAH BUT ALSO OUTSIDE PALE OF UMMAH. THEY INDULGE IN ZINA. BY USING THE RECTUM OF WOMAN THEY HAVE OPENED SEVERAL GATES OF ZINA FOR THEM. ON ACCOUNT OF SUCH SENSUALITIES THEY ARE PRODUCTS OF ZINA. WE PRAY TO ALLAH TO SAVE US ALL FROM FOLLOWING THE FOOTPRINTS OF SATAN." |
If the perpetrators of sodomy are fornicators who adhere to the Sunnah if Satan, the this taunt clearly falls back on the above individuals, and all the Sunni Ulema that practised it and endorsed it, the Shi'a madhab does not deem sodomy to be halaal, and as proof we advance the following evidence…
Sunni Ulema have testified that the Shi'a don't deem sodomy to be halaal
As evidence we have relied on the following esteemed Sunni works:
- Tafseer Ruh al Ma'ani, Surah Baqarah verse 223
- Fayl al Lawathar Volume 6 page 228 Bab Wathee Fee Dhabr
We read in Fayl:
In the eyes of the Shi'a this is Makruh
This has been similarly recorded in Tafseer Rul al Ma'ani:
"The Shi'a scholars have deemed sodomy with women to be haraam".
This is our position, if any Shi'a deems it permissible then we have simply supported the position of Umar for the purposes of Muslim brotherhood!
The truth is somewhere in the middle. We have some narrations wherein the Imams (as) said you can, and some wherein they said it is haraam. There is no Sahih hadeeth on this matter what can be seen is that it is Makruh. We read in Sharh Lamaa Volume 2 page 55 Kitab al Nikah Chapter 10:
"Entering a woman's anus is Makruh (very close to haraam), there is a narration from Imama Jafer al Sadiq (as) that sodomy with a woman is haraam, since the Imam (as) narrated from the Prophet (s) "Women's anuses are haraam for my Ummah". In the commentary of this tradition [page 55] it is written "A group amongst the Shi'a Ulema have issued Fatwas that anal sex is haraam".
Now that we have proven that the origin of sodomy with women goes back to the Salaf King Pins, let us continue with the journey to ascertain the truth. Junbaaz showed blatantly dishonesty when attacking the Shi'a on this topic, we have established the Salaf were the founding forefathers of sodomy with women. It should also come as no surprise to learn that the more creative also focussed himself on the male rear guard too. Let us investigate the matter…
Hakim bin Aas was a homosexual
In the esteemed Tafseer Ruh-al Maani, the following is recorded:
"Imam Ahl'ul Sunnah al Wusi states that Shaykh ul Hadith Mufassir Qur'an Ibn Abi Hathim "Zennam is that person who takes it in the anus, and in this verse three individuals are referred, Hadhrath Khalid's father Waleed bin Mughira, Khalifa Banu Marwan's grandfather Hakim bin Aas, Hadhrath Umar's maternal uncle Abu Jahal".
Tafseer Ruh-al Maani, Chapter 29, Section "Nun wal Kalam"
In Sawaiq al Muhriqa page 108 Ibn Hajar Makki in his defence of Hadhrath Hakim the companion states that:
"It is shameful for any Sahabi to engage in homosexuality, Hadhrath Hakim was a homosexual before he became Muslim".
Six of Ahl'ul Sunnah's khalifas descended from Hakim the homosexual
As evidence we are relying on the following great Sunni works:
- Sharh Fiqh Akbar page 50 Dhikr Fadail Uns Bad un Nabi
- Sawaiqh al Muhriqa page 12 Chapter 3
- Tareekh al Khulafa page 11 Fadail Dhikr Khilafath Islam
- Tareekh Khamees Volume 2 page 291 Dhikr Khilafat Hasan
- Umdah' thul Qari fi Sharh Bukhari Volume 11 page 435, Kitab al Ahkaam
We read in Sharh Fiqh Akbar:
Rasulullah (s) said that the Deen shall remain strong as long as these twelve Khalifahs are at the helm, and the twelve are Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, 'Ali Mu'awiya, Yazid, Abdul Malik bin Marwan, Walid bin Abdul Malik bin Marwan, Sulayman bin Abdul Malik bin Marwan, Umar bin Abdul Aziz, Yazid bin Abdul Malik bin Marwan, Hasham bin Abdul Malik bin Marwan
Comment
We congratulate the Salafi for having Imams who came from the seed of a degenerate Nasibi homosexual!
Qadhi Yahya was a die hard Sunni scholar
In Tarikh Baghdad Chapter 14 page 198 on the above-mentioned page Hafidh Abu Bakr states:
"Qadi Yahya bin Aksam was a great Ahlul Sunnah scholar protected from all forms of bidah".
The same Imam of Ahl'ul Sunnah Qadi Yahya bin Aksam was also a homosexual
In the authentic Sunni work Ta'rikh Baghdad, page 198, Chapter 14 "Dhikr Yahya bin Aksam" we read the following poem written by Ahmad bin Abki Naeem for Qadi Yahya:
"Our Leader takes bribes,
Our Judge is homosexual
And as long as the Abbasides reign
I have no confidence that tyranny will subside"
Comment
If these Salafi in this day and age keep barking about cleansing the Deen of Bidah, they should know one of their esteemed State Imams was a homosexual, aloof from all form of Bidah! We congratulate the Salaf Ulema for refusing to deem homosexuality bidah!
Words from the skies - Qadi Yahya was a homosexual
The great Ahl'ul Sunnah scholar, Allamah Isfahani narrates in "Muhadarat al-'udaba" page 351 Volume 3 "Al Hadad Sadhus Asur" that:
"Once a pious youth was sitting next to Mamun Abbasi, Mamun asked Qadi Yahya to determine his knowledge by asking him any question, the Qadi asked what's the news? The boy replied that on earth it is known that you are a paedophile whereas in the skies it is known that you have an addiction to the anus" The Qadi asked which news is correct? the boy replied the news in the skies can never be wrong"
Imam Abu Hanifa's esteemed student Ibn Mubarak was also a homosexual
We also read in "Muhadarat al-'udaba' page 199 Chapter 1 "Al hada al Saani" that:
"Hakim Tabaristan made Abdullah bin Mubarak a Judge, who was addicted to the anus (Homosexual) he asked the Hakim 'Sir I need some men who can help you" Hakim said I was aware of your need before this".
The Salaf deem it permissible to pray Salat behind a homosexual Imam
We read in Sahih al Bukhari, page 96, Kitab Bab ul Salaat, narrates a tradition from Zuhri:
"The Imamate of a mukhanath at a time of necessity is Sahih".
Sahih al-Bukhari, Page 96, 1375 AH print
Note: Arabic word "Mukhanath" means homosexual. This hadeeth has been removed from the English version of Bukhari, but exists in old copies of Arabic version. E.g. this 1375 Hijri print.
Comment
This is the madhab of the Salafi and Deobandi, one where a homosexual can attain the rank of a Qadhi, the Imam of a Mosque and such a great personality can also be Ahl'ul Sunnah.
A Salaf's vow to avenge Uthman's murder through sodomy
We read in al Muhadarat Volume 3 page 253 Chapter 15:
"A follower of Uthman was crying and said 'If only I were to apprehend a killer of Uthman'. A homosexual asked 'What would you do?' He replied 'I would sodomise him'. The homosexual then said 'I killed Uthman'. With that the follower of Uthman turned the homosexual on his back and said 'This is vengeance for Uthman'. The homosexual said from underneath 'If the executors of Uthman are going to avenge the killing of Uthman is such a manner then I have killed Hadhrath Uthman (r) every day"
A Salaf's painful sacrifice for the love of Mu'awiya
We also read in al Muhadarat Volume 3 page 237:
"A man paid a boy some money to secure his consent to sodomise him. When he tried to enter inside him, the boy noticed that his penis was very large he refused to allow him to enter. The man replied 'You will have to do one of two things, either you allow me to sodomise you, OR: You curse Ameer Mu'awiya. The boy replied I shall be patient and allow myself to be sodomised rather than curse the Commander of the Faithful Mu'awiya. When the man started to sodomise him, the boy said 'O Allah I am suffering this affliction on account of love for your Guardian Mu'awiya. O Allah, grant me solace for having refused to curse Mu'awiya".
Comment
Subhanallah! What a sacrifice! Alhamdolillah we, the Shi'a of Maula 'Ali (as) have the example of Hujr bin Adi (ra) who sacrificed his head rather than curse Maula 'Ali, and the Nasibi have this young Salaf rent boy as an example who sacrificed his anus for the love of Mu'awiya!
To this great Sunni scholar who sought to attribute the origins of female sodomy to the Shi'a, we suggest you also conduct some research into the origins of homosexuality, and if you wish to learn some more please consult our books on the marriage of Umme Kalthum and the Devil's Deception of the Nasibi - where you will learn about the homosexuality of one of your esteemed Shaykh's, that should be a great learning curve for you.
Please see our articles:
 Devil's deception of Nasibi Wahabis
Nikah of Lady Umme Kulthum(sa)
If these Nasibi are fond of learning more facts then we suggest that they check out the next references.
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Private lives of the Nasibi Salaf
Kr-Hcy.com on the Mothers of believers
Jami al Tirmidhi, Bab al Tafseer Volume 2, page 382, 'Ayat Hars'
Tafseer Mazhari, Volume 3, Page 19
Tafseer Durre Manthur Volume 1 page 111, Ayat Hars
Sahih al-Bukhari, Page 96, 1375 AH print